Southeast Asia 2023
February 16, 2023 I headed off to Southeast Asia -- Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam. I thought that I knew a lot about Asia. In addition to my academic courses and personal reading, I'd been to Japan twice -- once for 3 1/2 months and once for 2 1/2 weeks. I'd gone to China 3 times, including to Yunnan Province in Southwestern China which is very different from the eastern part of China. I discovered Southeast Asia to be a very different world from these other countries.
The tour started slowly as we all adjusted to time changes, and for me, 30 hours of travel. For the first few days we visited typical tourist sites. Then, our tour group made great efforts for us to meet with local people and experience the culture, not just see famous sites. We also discussed controversial topics in each country. Heads up: My favorite places were Luang Prabang in Laos and Vietnam. Here are some highlights of my trip. (FYI I apologize for my lack of understanding the layout tools for this program with uncentered type, but you'll get the idea).
February 18
I arrived a day early to help with jet lag and met a few people in my group. Several of us visited a non-standard tourist spot, the Dragon Temple about an hour + outside of Bangkok. You can see the Dragon winding around the Temple
The Buddhist nuns told us we could take flowers and write the names of our loved ones on a ribbon and put it at the top of the Temple for good luck and long life. After we took the flowers and ribbon, they mentioned we could make a little donation for it! The photos of the king of Thailand and his family are everywhere.
This is the inside of the dragon. They had lights and the occasional fan, but it was as steep and claustrophobic as it looks. A couple of us got out our hiking poles to get up this thing. I don't know if it will lead to long life or a quick heart attack!
And the star of the show --
Wait, here's the real star!!
Imagine seeing a hand in meditation posture to hang your bag on in a US bathroom!
After visiting the palace, we walked to a nearby university and met a very brave 24-year-old woman who has been arrested and is still followed for protesting against the government. She now works as an activist, hoping that the country will become a democracy instead of being ruled by a totalitarian Prime Minister. We met her in a secluded park on university grounds where no one would see us talking to her. She wore a wonderful democracy T-shirt but we couldn't take any photos of her.
There is a big Muslim community here that dates back to the time of the Silk Road. Our leader keeps commenting on how everyone gets along and how great it is. I keep thinking that since most of the population is Buddhist and the Muslim population isn't increasing, there may be less tension than in other places. It's easier to be tolerant when you don't feel overwhelmed.
We went to a restaurant called Cabbages & Condoms. The restaurant has a condom theme throughout the restaurant and in the gift shop. There is is a chain of them in Thailand owned by a former minister of health. He thought that condoms should be as common and accessible as cabbages. Initially, the focus was for family planning but later focused on AIDS. His playful view helped make gigantic strides in eliminating AIDS which was a huge issue. Profits from the restaurant all go to help poor people. They've even received a grant from the Gates Foundation.
February 22
Arrived in Luang Prabang, Laos.
After being in Bangkok, a huge modern city, with 11 million people, it's nice to be in this mountain town of 55,000 people. It can get up to 90 during the day but has extremely low humidity and can go down to 63 in the evening. It is a relief to be here but this will likely be the last place that isn't super hot. In Thailand, the old capital was declared a UNESCO site. Here, the entire village is a UNESCO site. That means that they are given money to try to maintain the village as it is. Within certain boundaries you can't make changes to a property without approval.
Jackfruit
February 23
Love the simplicity and openness of our hotel in Luang Parabang.
Best maid signs ever.
There's a daily farmer's market 50 feet from our hotel.
We took a river cruise along the Mekong River. "mother of all rivers" which runs from Tibet, China, Myanmar, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam.
We stopped at Muangkham village.
He's making a wire fence so that the water buffalo don't eat his crops.
This little boy demonstrates a dance they do before kickboxing. It has nothing to do with the Buddhist shrine but it made a great stage for him.
February 24
Today we left the hotel at 5:30 AM. We sat outside this temple, waiting for the monks who go through the streets receiving alms from the people. They depend completely on the villagers to feed them. They are not allowed to cook or keep food. These monks are not vegetarian. People feed the monks because it brings them good karma.
Is it Laos or Lao? Our guide says either but the locals call it Lao and Lao people. It was the French colonizers that came up with Laos and Laotians.
We drove up the mountain today to a Hmong village. These people were living by a lovely waterfall when the government decided it would make a great tourist attraction and forced the village to relocate to this mountain. They were very angry that they no longer had access to water so the Grand Circle foundation which the parent company of Overseas Adventure Travel, provided money to create water pipes from the river. They provided 7 huge water tanks to store the water. In this country, it's either incredibly dry like it is right now or monsoon season with tons of flooding. The Grand Circle Foundation also built the school that we visited.
We watched a blacksmith repairing cutting tools. A chief from another village brought him some knives to repair while we were here. The woman in back looks like she's churning butter but is actually controlling the bellows to keep the fire going.
We met a Hmong shaman. He explained that Shamans are chosen by the spirit. One can't choose to be a Shaman. He performs healing ceremonies. Sometimes he will just give people herbs to heal them. If their illness or condition has a spiritual cause, then he must perform rituals to make the bad spirit leave the person. Our guides are Buddhist and the Hmong beliefs are alien to them but they are very respectful.
Huge food court at the night market.
February 25
Many of us visited the Grand Palace Museum. It was the former palace and home the the last king and queen of Lao. This was before they were taken to a reeducation camp where they supposedly died from malaria. Nobody believes that's how they died. The Pathet Lao also took the king's eldest son who died there. Since the king appears in the Doctor Siri mysteries I wanted to take photos but we were not allowed to take any photos.
After that, we flew to Vientiane, the capital. It's a real city with almost a million people It's flat and also along the Mekong River. It is illegal to cross over to Thailand. This is a new cultural building paid for by China. We've seen a lot of infrastructure paid for by China and a few things paid for by South Korea.
This is the Victory Arch for the victory over the French colonizers.
In a stroke of good timing, we arrived back at our hotel when the restaurant next door was opening up. Before they start work, the staff is required to do a little exercise dance.
For our first night in Vientiane, we were divided into three groups and sent to a home hosted dinner. We were told that here in the capital, the families would be middle class but wealthy by comparison to families in Luang Prabang. We were told that they would speak some English but not as good as our guides. Our host picked up my group in a new 7 seat Toyota van. Her English and her sister's English was incredibly good.
Despite their high end neighborhood, the dirt roads are horrible. The neighbors contribute to improving them but every time there's monsoon season, they have to start over.
No one says toilet or bathroom here or in Thailand. They all say happy room. You can tell this family is well off because they have two inside happy rooms, both on the second floor.
We helped make dinner with the groceries we purchased. We ate about 4 different dishes plus coconut soup. Unfortunately, it was dark out so we couldn't see their garden. They have a papaya tree, coconut tree, a mango tree and all of the vegetables we ate were also grown in their garden. Their father loves to care for it.
We saw many dogs on our trip. Most of them were wandering by themselves. A few of them had owners, but I never felt like I could pet any. I never saw a leash. At this house, they kept the doors open, no screens and Galong, their dog, just walked in and out of the house. When our host drove us home the dog kept following us, and our host kept saying oh she'll turn around here, and then a few minutes later, she said oh she will turn around here but the dog just kept coming. Soon we turned into a very busy street and the dog followed us. Our host looked distressed and I said we need to stop. I opened the car door but it was too high for the dog to jump in. I got out and panicked because I didn't see her and cars and motorcycles were zooming around. Finally she ran back and she was light enough I could actually pick her up and stick her in the car. Everyone clapped. One of the other guests said I was the hero of the evening. This was the first time the dog had ever been allowed in this van. The host said she normally rode in her basket on her motor scooter.
February 26
We spent the morning listening to a monk talk about Buddhism and do a short meditation with us. He also answered questions but I'm not sure everyone was clear about his answers.
Laos was never part of the Vietnam war and the US never declared war in Laos. But because the leader of Laos let Ho Chi Minh bring supplies to the south by going through Laos, the US dropped over 270,000,000 bombs in Laos. 80 million never exploded and are buried in the soil in Laos.
Every year, 20,000 people are killed or injured from these bombs that didn't explode, many of them children. When Barak Obama visited and learned about this, he managed to get Congress to commit to $90 million to eradicate these bombs.There are still 80,000 left. They are hard to find because they are in the jungle. We visited the COPE center, an organization that helps victims with prosthetics and other kinds of help that they need.
These are cluster bombs. They drop a big bomb that opens up and then all of these little bombs come out of the big bomb and drop to the ground. They are different from landmines. People usually get hurt by digging in their fields, making a fire, or kids find one of these little round bombs and start throwing it like a ball.
This survivor came to talk with us. He even rolled up his pants to show us his prosthetic legs. It's not easy to see in the photo, but it's a kind of wheelchair bike. It has a pole that he moves back and forth to propel the bike, rather than petals. Needless to say, it was a rather sobering morning.
February 27
When we arrived in Cambodia, one thing I did expect is that we would all enjoy visiting an art school for kids from 5 to 22. The school focuses on traditional art, modern art, music and dance. O.A.T. helps support the school. Students perform a famous coconut dance.
One thing I did not expect when arriving in Cambodia was to discover that Phnom Penh is a a large, modern, elegant city. I didn't get the best photos though as our remok drove through the city. A remok is similar to a Jumbo.
This is the China Hotel where our guide's wife works. She can speak Cambodian, English, and Chinese so she is highly employable. She works as a receptionist there which is a great job for her.
.This is the Naga casino. It is illegal for Cambodian people to go there. It is for the Chinese and foreign visitors. Not sure if it's called Naga to protect it or those who come there.
In the evening we went to the river. The king's palace sits on the wide walkway. It is situated on the bank of the cross between the Tonle Sap River and the Mekong River. Apparently the Chinese told the Khmer Rouge that they would support them if they did not destroy this palace or kill the king and queen.
A crowded walk to our restaurant on Buddha Day.
February 28
A very difficult day. Today we visited the genocidal museum which is at one of the 343 Killing Fields in Cambodia.

We met two survivors. They used to tell their stories in the former prison across the street. It became too political so our leaders rented a restaurant for the morning where they could comfortably talk and we could talk wth them. Both of these men have written books about their experiences. They had them translated into English and that's how they make a living. When we went across the street to the former prison, we saw them sitting there where they spend all day trying to sell their books.
This looks like an ordinary high school. It used to be, until they turned it into a prison. They took people there and tortured them until they would admit that they were CIA, FBI, or Russian spies. Actually, what they were doing was torturing them to give names of family members or friends or people that they knew. They were told that after they gave names, they would quit torturing them, except, of course, they didn't. They killed them anyway.
When the Cambodians realized that the Vietnamese troops were coming, they decided to empty the prison. They ran out with all the prisoners. Guns were firing all over the place. Somehow 7 prisoners survived. The one who is really short is the old guy we'd met who was selling his book.
March 1
Goodbye Phnom Penh, this elegant grand city with about a million people and remnants of French architecture and on to Siem Reap, a city with only 300,000 people, much history, world heritage sites, and also French architecture.
Yes, those are tarantulas in the frying pan.
Our next stop was a workshop/store that carved Buddhas out of sandstone. People in town will buy these expensive Buddhas and then pay to have them shipped back to Phnom Penh. They hope it will improve their karma.
We finally arrived at our hotel. The fanciest one yet. This the floor in the in elevator. Can you find your astrology sign?
I almost called reception because I thought that there was so much noise coming from my air conditioning. Nope, that wasn't it. The same noise is outside. It's cicadas.
March 2
We started our day with an ox cart ride. Actually, they are water buffalo. If you look carefully at this photo, you can see me crammed at the back. There were two people per cart. They drove us around the village.
Next we stopped at a weaving village. This is rattan. It isn't grown. It's wild and harvested and since more land is being dug up for new buildings, they are concerned that they won't have any rattan at some point.
This woman is 84. Many older women shave their heads and start going to the Buddhist temple when they get old.
Next, an unplanned stop. We saw fields of lotus flowers, and they stopped for us to get out and take photos. They've been cultivated to be sold.
Next adventure, we boarded a boat like this to go out on Tenlo Sap lake to view the floating village. There are about 6000 people living in this floating village near Siem Reap. On this entire lake, there are about 2 million people living in floating villages. It's a huge lake. When our guide was little there weren't any good roads to Phnom Penh. He would take a boat to get to Phnom Penh that took about 30 hours. He slept in a hammock.
Houses on the lake shore.
Then we visited Ta Promh temple. It's better known to many as the Temple of Doom from the Lara Croft movie with Angelina Jolie. The temple has been somewhat destroyed by tree roots that are absolutely amazing and unlike any I've ever seen.
March 3
This morning we began our tour at the East Gate of Angkor Wat. One of the women in our group had rented a remok for the mile walk in and out. It's flat but it was also very hot and humid and I decided to save my knees and join them.
I did not go up to the third level. There didn't used to be a handrail. I watched young people struggling to come down holding on to the railing for dear life. Our guides kept saying how Angkor Wat was on everyone's bucket list. If you go to Cambodia, you absolutely should go here, but it wasn't on my bucket list and I'm not sure that I would make the trip just to see it.
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Some of us went to an acrobat show. What's really cool about this, besides the fact that they're good is that it's another organization that brings in poor young people who are talented and then teaches them art and performance skills so the may be able to have a job in the arts
March 4
We went to Banteay Srei, the pink sandstone temple in Cambodia. It has a rose color and the stone can be carved like wood. It has elaborate carvings.
These musicians play traditional music outside the temple grounds. We also saw a group like this at Angkor Wat. They are all people who have been maimed by landmines or unexploded cluster bombs. this is how they need to earn their living now.
After our visit, we stopped at noodle village.
This woman in her sixties gets up at 4 AM to make fresh noodles every day so she can serve people at her little restaurant that is simply a long table with some plastic chairs. She makes fresh rice noodles every day and uses ancient equipment.
This is the first step where she puts the the rice and water in a stone grinder with a wooden lever.
Then she squeezes the noodles out of a metal cup with holes.She does this using a wooden beam that requires two people to put their weight on it to press the noodles down into the water where they cook for just a few minutes.
Final producet on a banan leaf.
Then the noodles get added to soup. These were the freshest rice noodles I'll ever eat. They were wonderful.
As you can see, each fruit bears only one nut and that's why they're so expensive. This was one of those spontaneous stops. Our guide saw a stand selling them and stop to buy us some cashews.
Final stop in Cambodia was the Angkor National Museum which as they proudly told us is their world class museum.

March 5
First, a few observations. When we first arrived in Bangkok, our leader kept saying that their Buddhism was like the New Testament. By that he meant that Hinduism came first and then Buddhism evolved. When we went to Angkor Wat in Cambodia we learned that basically it was a Hindu temple. Most of the wall carvings were from Hindu mythology.Then came Buddhism and it was a bit of a decorative mix. I was amazed at how much Buddhism permeated the daily life in Laos and Cambodia, and to a degree in Thailand. I was hoping to compare the differences between Theravada and Mahayana when we were in Vietnam, but guess what? This is a communist country and religion is not encouraged so I can't quite make that comparison. I'll have to do my own research at home.
Another observation is that dams are a huge, huge controversy. China has built multiple hydro electric dams along the Mekong River. Laos built a huge hydroelectric dam financed by Thailand. Cambodia and Vietnam hate these dams. They've been bad for the fish, bad for the crops, bad for getting the silt needed to keep land fertile. In some ways this like issues we have in our own country with dams, electricity and having enough water.
The pandemic has been hard. Thailand's major source of income is tourism. 47 million people came to Thailand each year before the pandemic and then a two year draught. Since the country opened up 6 months ago, 10 million people have arrived. In Laos, our guide became very depressed not working for 2 years and unable to support his family. He went to a monastery for a month to work on his state of mind. In Siem Reap, Cambodia, 85% of the population makes their income from tourism. Our Vietnamese guide said during the pandemic people either got divorced or had a baby. She has a 17 month old so she says she made the better choice.
I am now in what is officially called Ho Chi Minh City but most people still call Saigon. There are 11 million people and 8 million motor scooters. You don't see any big motorcycles. If you don't have much money, you buy one from China for $500 but you better be really good at knowing how to fix them because they break all the time. Anyone who can buys one for $2000 from Japan and they can last at least ten years.
It's illegal to eat on the street in Saigon so these young people are gathering around as they often do to eat but they have tiny little chairs so if the police are coming they can grab a chair and get away in a hurry.
This street is blocked of and apparently there's a big to do tonight and one of our guys just came back and said that there were thousands of people there. I'm sure it was quite a scene and I'm glad to have missed it.
When people ride motor scooters, they can get numb butt after an hour. They often stop at a place for Vietnamese coffee which is made with condensed milk and served in a glass. Vietnam is the second largest exporter of coffee but unlike Columbian coffee, it often gets relabeled and you don't realize it's Vietnamese. For those of us who don't drink coffee we were served green tea that was kept unbelievably hot in this coconut that was carved out.
We took a boat ride along the Mekong River about two hours south of Saigon.
This area is known as the food basket of Vietnam. We were served coconut water the way it is traditionally served.
This boat has two eyes as many still do. The idea was that if an alligator raised its head it would be scared off by the bigger "animal." There are no more alligators since people ate them all.
We took the boat up the tributary to stop at an organic farm. We met the farmer and his wife. He was incredibly nice and very funny. His main crop is pomelos.
After that, we got to ride on a sampan boat. These are small boats that are mainly used on the tributaries.


March 6
Saigon is a very vibrant city. and the most cosmopolitan we've visited. I noted that there were many Japanese stores and learned that's because there are many Japanese factories here and many Japanese have moved here. To compare to anywhere I've been I'd say the closest is Shanghai.
First stop this morning: Book Street. Apparently the government is worried that the kids are always on their phones and not reading. They are encouraging them to read. Classes will go here to buy books.
Manga are very popular and have to be held behind the desk. Students need to request them.
We learned that some people don't buy books but just get dressed up to take photos. And then look what we found.
People like to dress up and take pictures here as well.
And the ceiling. Wait! Who is that at the end of the hall??
The communist flag and the Vietnamese flag.
These were two buddies. The one in the white helmet was a double agent. Apparently there many double agents who worked in the government who accumulated information and then gave it to the Vietcong.
Then we went under the palace to an underground bunker with work rooms, and escape area.
We were told that the radio equipment was donated by Motorola but I could not find the name on any of the equipment.
Then the government officials could go down yet another layer to to lower bunker and even sleep there.
Remember the infamous Buddhist monk who went up in flames after setting himself on fire and energized anti-war sentiment? This is a statue of him. Our guide tells a different story, and one that she thinks is the real story. He fainted because he was drugged. And then people who wanted to create anti-war sentiment set him on fire but made it look like he'd set himself on fire. The copycat monks who followed the example probably set themselves on fire.
Then we walked into a formally private home owned by one of the many military men that who was actually a double agent.
Over three years they snuck in military equipment under vegetables. You can see how they were hidden in boards and then put underneath the beds.
O.A. T used to include this war museum on their trips but then they stopped doing it because so many people complained the it was un-American. A few years ago our leader added it back as an optional activity. It didn't strike me as specifically anti-American. Maybe just factual!
March 7
A few thoughts. Even though things can be crappy in our country, we do have freedom of speech.We might get criticized but we aren't going to be sent off to reeducation camp and have our entire family be penalized. Even though under the table things happen in the US, it's nothing like these countries. Our guide in Cambodia told us that if went to the hospital as he did with his father, the doctors and nurses will eventually come out to see you and then tell you that they might see you at the end of the day or you can come back tomorrow. If you decide to stay, the doctors don't really come back. But - if you pull out a wad of cash and give it to them, suddenly you are getting the medical care that you need -- in this country that supposedly has free medical care.
In a situation I'm not so critical of, our Vietnamese guide lives in a neighborhood that doesn't have good schools. She pays what they call "coffee money" to someone and her daughter is then able to go to school in a different district.
Today we went on a long ride about two hours north of Saigon. Our guide told us about her family on the way. Her one grandfather was from the north. His parents were killed by the French. Not surprisingly, he later joined the Vietcong. At one point he was captured and spent two years in prison. During that time a Catholic priest visited him and kept him from committing suicide. That's why he later converted to Catholicism. He was proud of the revolution and the system it created. Later he changed his mind. After the war, the government owned everything. Your land, your chickens no longer belonged to you but to the government. You were allotted a certain amount of rice for your whole family, regardless of the size of your family. When his son, our guide's father, became very sick, he was so worried, he quietly killed one of his former chickens to make soup for his son. He tried to be very quiet but the scent of the chicken soup carried. A bossy neighbor came over, discovered the soup and reported him to the police. As a result, his family was denied their rice portion for 8 months and the woman who reported him got his family's portion. He was enraged by this and lost complete faith in the system that he'd fought for.
Her other grandparent worked for the government of South Vietnam. After they lost the war, the new government tried to get people to surrender but nobody would. Finally, they showed positive tv images of people surrendering and being well taken care of. They were told if they surrendered, they would be sent to a work camp for a short time and then could come back to their jobs. His wife had two kids and was pregnant. He told her he'd be back in a month. They never saw him again.
Increasingly, Vietcong supporters have been disillusioned seeing how the country is now half communist and half capitalist and capitalism seems to be wining and inequality has returned.
After several hours of stories, we arrived at the Chu Chi tunnels. These were the underground tunnels that the Vietcong used. This looks like a termite mound but you can see there's a hole to let air into the tunnels. Of course, during the war this would be camouflaged.
He's demonstrating how to slip into a tunnel
This is the size of the actual tunnels. They made them much larger for us but they still felt small and claustrophobic to us.





















































































































































































































































































































































































































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